The 450cc Single Racer uses as many OEM chassis/engine components as possible and the most commonly available workhorse motor. Designed for Spec. Class racing and creating a resurgence in Capacity Class racing, the 450cc Single Racer combines simplicity, affordability and performance. It encourages a learning curve of braking, cornering and exit speed that benefits rider ability rather than deep pockets.Tuesday, July 17, 2007
450cc Single Racer to debut at Laguna Seca
The 450cc Single Racer uses as many OEM chassis/engine components as possible and the most commonly available workhorse motor. Designed for Spec. Class racing and creating a resurgence in Capacity Class racing, the 450cc Single Racer combines simplicity, affordability and performance. It encourages a learning curve of braking, cornering and exit speed that benefits rider ability rather than deep pockets.
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Please contact me about Honda 450.
louis.g.leblanc@exxonmobil.com
225-405-8707
I was very impressed with what I saw at Laguna Seca. Can you put up some photos of the bikes? When might you have some pricing available?
I was really pleased to see both bikes at Laguna and can't wait to hear more about availability!
Jason Lavallee
LIKE THE IDEA SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE
The bikes look great! Would love to know when they will be available and any more additional info. Please email at bsouza88@hotmail.com if you can. Thanks!
I also saw the bikes at Laguna and am very curious about them. As an Ex-tz250 racer the concept appeals to me and the bikes really struck a cord. I am curious as to their performance though, what is the state of tune on these motors and what is their power to weight ratio. Clearly they wont be a TZ250, but how do they perform on track. What do you estimate the cost to build one of these bikes to be?
I will be checking back here often to see if any more info is posted. I too would like to know about availability of kits and cost.
After seeing these bikes at Laguna, I'm considering building one myself very soon.
I just came back from Laguna. First impression: these bikes are very cool for the club racer. However, I question the size / scale for the “true” road racer. I’ll likely build one next. I’m currently building a Tigcraft MiniMono. Dave Pierce, founder of Tigcraft has well crafted tubular steel chassis that fits an adult, uses the 450 single of your choice and utilize ultra light Honda RS125 components in many places including forks, swingarm, tail section, etc. Dave’s “small is beautiful” formula is dominating Super Mono in Europe. No question the RSD looks tuff and capable – but I suspect it will likely be challanged by the smaller; lighter 450cc Tigcraft MiniMono. On the other hand, the larger RSD (which is sized like a tall 250 with a nice fat rear tire) is more satisfying to the “ego” then the wispy thin MiniMono.
Frank / San Diego
I saw the bikes at Laguna....and am ready to build one.
Please post pricing and availabliltiy for the Honda conversion.
When will they be available ?
IF you guys offered this as a kit I would buy it right now. I was very impressed at Laguna this weekend. I've been wishing the big four would bring some smaller displacement sport bikes back to the US, maybe this is the answer. Screw the little kids, this is perfect for the budget racer! I was instantly reminded of Rex Marsee's CR500.
Come on! This thing has had me up at night ever since I saw it at Laguna. When will we have more information or at least a blueprint to make our own?
Check the video if you have not seen it. http://www.kawasakilive.com/LagunaSeca/blog/post.aspx?t=a&id=37
the idea of a supermono based on modern 450 engines is a good one. for anyone considering such a move i would highly recommend alan cathcart's 2002 review of dave pearce's tigcraft minimono development for a discussion of some of the key issues involved. (e-mail me at jimmie_doll@brown.edu if you can't find a copy of the review but would like one). my son, john doll, has been running one of dave's creations for the past 4 seasons and has just fielded a second minimono. for some of the details, see http://www.singlecellracing.com.
jim doll/providence
Brilliant concept...great timing... I may go road racing instead of selling my CR due to bady damage.. may even let my kid ride it.. will keep track of further info,
Well done!
You should look into renting these out with Http://SportbikeRental.com
or Http://TrackbikeRental.com same company. They already rent all of new 600's from Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Suzuki. It would be an easy way for people to ride them before the big investment.
Easy Button!
just letting you know, i'm already stock piling parts to build my own. this is a genius idea. I have been a dirt tracker for 8 years and this is the break i wanted to get into road racing. keep up the good work!
I've been roadracing a converted/lowerd/bodied crf since 03' with AHRMA. Raced 600's, and tz250 before, the single is the most fun by a long shot. see pics @ thumpertalk ---search garage
This is one of the best things to happen to roadracing in a long time and I hope it takes off. While this is a great venue for kids new to roadracing, this is also great for us 40+ guys with kids, mortgages and a need to go to work on Monday. Limited costs + lower top speeds = close racing and good fun. Sign me up.
I partially built a TZ-250 with YZ-426 motor and aborted the project before getting it dialed in due to time constraints. This seems to solve that problem too.
What a great combination... Roland Sands, an AMA RR champ, Troy Lee and a great presentation... what is there to say no to AMA? This will spar a whole new bunch of aspring road racers... watch out, but keep the rules tight...
450 MX/SM junkie
I would be very interested in this. I am interested in racing but am not interested in the money it takes to be competitive with a conventional sportbike (I am old, fat, and slow and am just looking for something as close to spec racing as possible just for fun).
It also seems like a very viable way to get kids into racing as there is not much in the way for young people to chose from in the U.S.
Jeeze, over a month since Laguna and squat new info. Forget about the specifics of race rules for now and just offer some kits so people can get the word out and start having fun at track days etc.
I think it's a good idea but just get the bikes out there for fun first and then if they're fun it'll catch on and become a series later.
Ready to start converting my SM bike for this class. I'm anxiously awaiting finalized rules and second the motion to keep them tight to keep costs down. JW Merced
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